Friday 10 February 2017

JAINISM--SCIENCE,GENERAL BELIEFS AND JAINISM------------PART-2.

To continue topic of earlier blog my friend and myself met Gurudeo again with in a gap of few days. Since then I have some reading on the subject but as I have no doubt on what Gurudeo has stated I do not have much preparation on it .But my friend had some more study on it as he briefed me while driving the car. It was a good interaction.
After preliminary rituals my friend asked permission to start related
conversation  Gurudeo kindly granted it saying "Hope ultimately you have found the truth "Let us discuss how far your discovery matches.

My friend said --- " Sir, I feel it is the most difficult topic ever that I have touched. I could not come to conclusion so meeting you again to have guideline for reaching to the truth. I seek your kind guidance.
 "My dear I do not force you to believe what I said in our last time meeting. You are free to have your own set of beliefs as everybody else have. You can assume any one theory and can test it on some questions. In case of confusion there is no other way out.
If test results is positive and free from doubt based on experience and observations of life take the theory as Truth. You can note down the test points  and start the research in reverse mode. One can have his own question points on similar line First take all theories to be correct. Then cancel one by one with test results. Finally any one of  discussed theory you will agree,I hope. Let's move towards topic.
This is widely accepted method to clear doubts. Ultimately you can reach to truth. You can explore various options based on following four hypothesis to arrive at truth. Now let us assume that there is---,
A--Absence of Karmas--
1-Then what decides span of life for a particular individual-whether it will be short. medium or long and nature of mix of sufferings and happiness he will encounter during such span of current life.
2-What decides wealth, personality ,popularity and intelligence levels among different entities around us..
3-parents,teachers,spouse,relatives.friends.foes.surroundings,faith,  religion and country -who decides all of this combination for any single entity ?How we got birth in spiritual country while others not.
B--Absence of pre- existence of Universe.
1-What  can be date of creation. Total creation took place in one go or in parts. Here numerical values even measurement in light years or like unit can not be useful including super computers.
2-The architect being a single hand or team of experts.
3-Was it a one time activity or additions/modifications going on continuously in invisible form.
4-How the ambit of sky could have been created with filling by such a giant scale galaxies.? How the requisite material like water, wind, soil can be gathered. Is it magic or super power beyond words. If it is magic then magic cannot be physical it can be only a illusion soon to be vanished.
C-Presence of controller:
1-Does living or non living things both are controlled or only either of them is being controlled. If major events of a particular individual are controlled or all events are being monitored. Whether there are different section for control wise human. animals. birds and plants. or it is concentrated function. Whether the controller has spare time for self ? The work is handled singly or team of powerful experts.
2-Does life and death are controlled and is dependent on judgement of such controller. How the timing for a particular person is arrived at for taking birth or leaving for heavenly abode any clue for it ?.
3-What is faith of such controller Does he create people of one faith only. Then how we come across different religions and faiths. Does he control people of various faiths and love all creatures equally. What is his attitude towards people of different faith. Whether initially there is no inbuilt faith and one acquires it after birth.
4-Is he impartial and behave equally with devotees or haters if any. Can he be pleased by any human actions or he is neutral for such actions and carry on with most judicial decisions for everybody.
5- Does he guards his own creation from natural calamity like earthquake, cyclone, famine. flood, .accidents, etc. Similarly whether he takes care to avoid world wars and like human tragedies. Does he allow dropping of atomic bomb on self created loved ones.
6-If we are particles of super soul then how there is impurity among each of us. Secondly if five basics are responsible for life whether those elements are living or non living. If they are non living then life can be created in laboratory also. And it is just impossible. In such case one can have robot without brain and mind. Even cloning without basic elements is impossible.
D-Possibility of End of Universe.
1-Suppose last world war with free use of nuclear weapons takes place in near future. It cannot nullify human race in totality. Human race can suffer major loss but some can still survive with non living things in shaken shape. Secondly earth is a tiny fraction of universe. Rest of universe can carry on usual. So just think how can it be with end when  there was no beginning. You can draw a logical result.
So dear friends have the answers from  all these tests. These are not model questions. You can think ,observe and add or delete to those questions and arrive at conclusion. If God is separated from so called monitoring function and taken only as guide of good deeds then accountability for own actions will increase for everybody. And there lies key of happy coexistence for human race provided non violence and truth are taken as minimum principles "Gurudeo concluded.
We stood up and bowed down our heads. My friend said "Sir, truth is a truth. Whether I understand it or not. Let us wait if I am fortunate enough to reach it. I am optimistic  always hoping for best. Thanks.
I will definitely meet you once I discover it. Please grant me your
permission to think." Soon we left the venue. This time my friend was looking calm and quite. So many permutations, combinations have seem to made him silent for a while. Let us wait for his results.

JAI JINENDRA--------!!!------------- JAI MAHAVEER--------!!!.