Friends, it was a much time gap since Gurudeo moved from my location. I happened to attend a distant place to attend wedding of my relative. In a chat with local relatives, I came to know presence of Gurudeo in same city. I extended my stay for a day and attended
Gurudeo's question and answer session. Here is the brief coverage.
A devotee put a question to Gurudeo" Sir, I have heard concept of
Bhavi and Abhavi souls from you in last few sessions. I am worried
for future of my son who is leading a free life style. He never visit
any Sthanak or Derasar. Has very little faith for Jainism. Can you
guide me if he is Bhavi or Abhavi. Can he will ever change -----" ?
Looking at him Gurudeo started answer "You have asked a very
important issue. I try to explain it for benefit of all of us. It is very
difficult for me to tell for any one if he is definitely a Bhavi or no,
Only Kewali Bhagwan with their Kewaldyan and Kewaldarshan.
(Current behavior may give some hints, but they are not conclusive)
can give a definite answer as they are able to look into all the three
periods of any soul. Here I can share information and criteria of it.
Bhavi soul means a soul who has power to cut off all wrong faiths
and follow Bhagwan Mahaveer's path exactly. You cannot stamp
your son as Abhavi for his conduct in a single life. One can be very
much surprised to know that even present Bhavi souls have lived so
many cycles of lives in wrong faith. Bhavi only can get salvation.
As a fact all Bhavi will get Moksha definite at different time point.
To understand whole concept clearly let us start from initial stage of Nigod (Tiny plants for example in Hindi it is called "Shewal".It
is green colored plants near river or ponds) From such smallest
living soul, generally soul starts journey. Initially there are 2 types.
One is operational category and second one is non operational one.
They are termed as " Vyavhar and Avyavhar Rashi". All Abhavi
souls are from beginning in operational class where they can go to
all 4 Gati. But future Bhavi souls are in " Avyavhar Rashi" .When
a noble soul gets liberated ,then the future Bhavi souls leaves the
non operation class and starts life in all four Gatis. For Abhavi| souls
there is nil possibility to get liberated. They will carry on living in
all four Gati as per Karmas built. They cannot be Bhavi by any tool.
As Bhagwan explained to Jayantishrawika, Bhaviness is natural.
Bhavi soul may fall to wrong faith after touching Samkit but they
will recover to correct one at some point.
When after numerous life cycles ,a soul touches Samkit or correct
faith he changes status from "Krishnapakshi" to " Shuklapakshi".
A Shuklapakshi can get salvation in "Ardhapudgalparavartan",.It is
the rule in general.Few exception can be there as of Marudevimata.
She simply had only three Bhav to get Moksha and become Siddaha.
In simple terms it can be minimum 15 lives- 7 in Deologa and 8 in
human life. A prior condition to it that the particular soul has done
with all 6 steps. They are Bhavi,Samyakdristhi,Paritsansari,Sulabh
Bodhi,Aardhak and Charimshariri. Bhavi souls will become monk
in last life.will attain Kewaldyan and Kewaldarshan get liberated.
ये संत बडे़ ही निराले है ! जिनशासन के उजाले है !
इनकी महिमा क्या गाये हम सबको तिराने वाले है !
वीर के कोहिनुर हिरों को वंदन है अभिनंदन है ! ...........!
Abahvi are also called "No-Bhavy".They can have birth up to nine
Greveyak and can achieve knowledge up to 9 Purva. Siddha Prabhu
are called "Nobhavya-Noabhavya" as they are achieved last status. So there is no reason to get disappointed for future of your son. As
he will cut negative Karmas covering correct faith and knowledge
,he will be automatically attracted to Bhagwan's Jainism. Only tool
in your hand as a parent to brief him his good fortune to get birth in
Jain background. To waste such golden opportunity is not a wise
thing to do. May he will get such a life time opportunity after gap
which may run into numerous life cycles. One need to keep a watch
that he is free from bad company and bad habits .Otherwise it will
be a difficult task to bring him back on track "Gurudeo concluded.
JAI JINENDRA------------!!!------ JAI MAHAVEER----------!!!.
Gurudeo's question and answer session. Here is the brief coverage.
A devotee put a question to Gurudeo" Sir, I have heard concept of
Bhavi and Abhavi souls from you in last few sessions. I am worried
for future of my son who is leading a free life style. He never visit
any Sthanak or Derasar. Has very little faith for Jainism. Can you
guide me if he is Bhavi or Abhavi. Can he will ever change -----" ?
Looking at him Gurudeo started answer "You have asked a very
important issue. I try to explain it for benefit of all of us. It is very
difficult for me to tell for any one if he is definitely a Bhavi or no,
Only Kewali Bhagwan with their Kewaldyan and Kewaldarshan.
(Current behavior may give some hints, but they are not conclusive)
can give a definite answer as they are able to look into all the three
periods of any soul. Here I can share information and criteria of it.
Bhavi soul means a soul who has power to cut off all wrong faiths
and follow Bhagwan Mahaveer's path exactly. You cannot stamp
your son as Abhavi for his conduct in a single life. One can be very
much surprised to know that even present Bhavi souls have lived so
many cycles of lives in wrong faith. Bhavi only can get salvation.
As a fact all Bhavi will get Moksha definite at different time point.
To understand whole concept clearly let us start from initial stage of Nigod (Tiny plants for example in Hindi it is called "Shewal".It
is green colored plants near river or ponds) From such smallest
living soul, generally soul starts journey. Initially there are 2 types.
One is operational category and second one is non operational one.
They are termed as " Vyavhar and Avyavhar Rashi". All Abhavi
souls are from beginning in operational class where they can go to
all 4 Gati. But future Bhavi souls are in " Avyavhar Rashi" .When
a noble soul gets liberated ,then the future Bhavi souls leaves the
non operation class and starts life in all four Gatis. For Abhavi| souls
there is nil possibility to get liberated. They will carry on living in
all four Gati as per Karmas built. They cannot be Bhavi by any tool.
As Bhagwan explained to Jayantishrawika, Bhaviness is natural.
Bhavi soul may fall to wrong faith after touching Samkit but they
will recover to correct one at some point.
When after numerous life cycles ,a soul touches Samkit or correct
faith he changes status from "Krishnapakshi" to " Shuklapakshi".
A Shuklapakshi can get salvation in "Ardhapudgalparavartan",.It is
the rule in general.Few exception can be there as of Marudevimata.
She simply had only three Bhav to get Moksha and become Siddaha.
In simple terms it can be minimum 15 lives- 7 in Deologa and 8 in
human life. A prior condition to it that the particular soul has done
with all 6 steps. They are Bhavi,Samyakdristhi,Paritsansari,Sulabh
Bodhi,Aardhak and Charimshariri. Bhavi souls will become monk
in last life.will attain Kewaldyan and Kewaldarshan get liberated.
ये संत बडे़ ही निराले है ! जिनशासन के उजाले है !
इनकी महिमा क्या गाये हम सबको तिराने वाले है !
वीर के कोहिनुर हिरों को वंदन है अभिनंदन है ! ...........!
Abahvi are also called "No-Bhavy".They can have birth up to nine
Greveyak and can achieve knowledge up to 9 Purva. Siddha Prabhu
are called "Nobhavya-Noabhavya" as they are achieved last status. So there is no reason to get disappointed for future of your son. As
he will cut negative Karmas covering correct faith and knowledge
,he will be automatically attracted to Bhagwan's Jainism. Only tool
in your hand as a parent to brief him his good fortune to get birth in
Jain background. To waste such golden opportunity is not a wise
thing to do. May he will get such a life time opportunity after gap
which may run into numerous life cycles. One need to keep a watch
that he is free from bad company and bad habits .Otherwise it will
be a difficult task to bring him back on track "Gurudeo concluded.
JAI JINENDRA------------!!!------ JAI MAHAVEER----------!!!.